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Its time I made a post. [30 Sep 2005|04:08pm]
Well lets try this again. Here I shall answer any questions about the current situation to everyone at once. Also let it be known, anyone that nitpicks a small section saying that that wasn't all of it when it was something that didn't matter to the point, will not get answered, and you might get killed.

My, what a last few days, let me talk a bit about them, and then Jared, maybe you'll know what Quira meant by avoiding this place.

Lets start with Tuesday as thats really the beginning of many things. Tuesday I went to see Quira, and it was great, we had a great time, we both loved being together again and we are back to being "official". We hadn't seen each other in over two weeks at the time, and it was going so well I decided to miss my train that I intended on taking. So I did, I talked to James and was like, I'm going to take a later train, ok? Granted this was when it was already to late to make the 10:40, but James said it was fine. So I make the the 11:59 train and head towards Lowell. About 5 minutes into the trip I called James to tell him I was on my way and if he can pick me up in 40 minutes. So I got there, I waited outside for 10 minutes, and James hadn't shown up, I was going to give him 5 more minutes then call. Fortunately though, the last car out of the parking garage emerged and it was Jared. Asked him if I could get a ride since James still wasn't there and he said sure. SO I call James and hes like "ok". I get back and find out that James never had even left, somehow he thought I was supposed to call 5 minutes before I got to Lowell, when really I had say I would call 5 minutes after I left north station, and I did call 5 minutes out of north station, so you'd think he'd of figured that out. We went to sleep and then wednesday came...


Wednesday, classes were fine on Wednesday, for most of the day I was working on my programming project due later that night, which I did finish. So was James, who by the way didn't finish that night. I had told him that I wanted him to do this project on his own because if I kept helping him he wouldn't learn anything, plus we are in college, you need to be able to do the work yourself or you'll fail in your actual career. So he struggled with it and really did work hard on it, I commend him for that, he still asked me a couple questions on it, a couple which I answered, but most of which I ignored since I had my own work to do. Anyways, kevin asked if it would be okay to invite Wendy over for a little bit, and we both said sure. So Wendy came over and Laura was soon to follow of course. During this time I was doing my test, Kevin and I had some plans for after midnight that night, but it didn't really matter to me that they fell through, so when I finished my homework I began talking to Quira on line. James was still diligently working on his project, I hope he does well, he worked very hard on it. Anyways, I decided to ask Quira why laura would come over here and sleep while James did homework for 2 ours, the conversation went something like this:

Jeff: Why would laura come over 2 hours ago to sleep here while James does homework for the entire time?

Quira: Because she has Separation anxiety, and she is afraid he might forget about her and go sleep with another girl or his video games.

So eventually James also finished his homework, and joined laura and I stayed up a bit longer than they did since I was a little annoyed that no one asked me if their girlfriends could stay over but I was didn't care, I didn't have classes in the morning, I didn't really matter to me then. I planned on talking with my roommates later about what happened and to ask me especially on school nights, this to me seems at least to me.


Non for Thursday night. We only had Calc III on Thursday, it was fine, except we had a massively hard Calc III test on Friday. Well really we didn't know what to expect, our teach is somewhat eccentric, but we all know we wanted to do well on this test, and studying was required And we had a page of notes to take care of making. We were allowed one page, front and back on the test. So I decided to be nice and help out by typing it up while they told me what to type, so Kevin is reading off to me the notes while I type it in and after a little while James goes on his computer, I don't know why exactly, but he does, a few minutes later he gets a call from laura. He then leaves the rom and Kevin yells out to a random kid to tell him to yell at James, this kid looked confused. Anyways, moments later James comes back in with Wendy and Laura, both in full sleeping attire ready to goto sleep here again tonight. I was pissed. Then while I continued to type up this cheat sheet, James and Laura started doing what they did best when with other people. Ignore the other people and make out.. While Kevin just kissed Wendy a few times and was being rather unresponsive to me. As in Id have to say something a few times before he'd respond. Well, I was pissed and it showed. Kevin realizing this eventually offered to take over typing, and I was like, fine.
So I came back to my side of the room and decided to blast some music, as in louder than Ive ever tested my speakers. Perhaps I was being bitter and immature about it, but I didn't care, I wanted to get my point across. In more ways than one, I wanted to piss them off while at the same time draw an analogy to testing the limits of my speakers, because I felt they had been testing my limits and I didn't want to take it anymore. Eventually the girls did leave as my roommates and their better halves realized how pissed off I was and they left so they could talk to me about what was wrong. I thought that when the girls left that they had figured out what was wrong but I was mistaken, they were just waiting outside for a bit. So I told them why I was upset. Well, yelling mostly. Told them how I felt they were taking advantage of me, out they were just testing my limits. And how to assumed I would be okay with the girls staying over when we all had a major test the next day was absolutely obscene. Some of their counter arguments were jnst bad too. Such as James saying that I didn't ask him for permission for Quira to sleep over either. Which by the way everyone, has never happened. Quira and I had only discussed potential times for her to come over at that point, nothing had ever been decided at that point, so how was that the same thing? Then he also mentioned how Tuesday was also similar, since I had called at the alst moment changing the time for James to pick me up from the train station when James never even picked me up, Jared did.
Through this whole discussion/argument I told James that if we are trying to study for a tst use common sense, if the girls ask to come over, you say no. Then I mentioned something like and if Laura can't handle that because maybe sje has separation anxiety issues, then I don't know. Meaning that its been shown time and time again that when James doesn't want to hang out with Laura she has thought something is wrong, James has done this too in similar situations. I'm guilty of it a few times myself, Kevin and Quira have both been witness to such occasions.. I don't know how its any better, but he countered this anxiety thing by saying that they didn't ask to come over, he invited them over. Then the rest of the current story can be found mostly in recent posts in Laura's live journal, but that should bring everyone up to speed. Now for the fun parts, my points.

It has been said that James and Laura both “use” me, and I shall respond to that. Yes they have, almost the only time Laura ever calls me is when she needs her, or her grandmother's computer fixed. Now this reminds me of something that Laura said that she hated about jess, it was that she only called her when she was bored or needed something from Laura. I don't mind fixing a computer once or twice for someone, it was my job for 3 years, but I'm not going to drop everything to fix a friends computer, I have my own things to take care of, when I get to it, I get to it. Just don't take advantage of my good nature in that area.

James, whether or not you are simply “getting back into the swing of things” is irrelevant. You had this assignment for nearly 2 weeks time, yet you decided to start it on the last week. Yeah, I did too. The difference is I knew I could get it done, I knew I wouldn't need any help. If you need any theory help on your programming, I give you some, I am helpful person in that respect. But I am not your personal tutor, true you didn't ask me that many questions on Wednesday. But you did on Monday when you started the assignment. It might be true that you simply have to get back into the swing of things, but if you knew this, which you claim you did, doesn't that seem like the opportune moment to get extra help on the homework, to start the assignment extra early and if you do that, I might even be willing to set aside some time during a day to go over the assignment with you and answer any “theory” questions you might have, syntax though, you need to see a tutor for or figure it out yourself. Trust me, the harder you work at finding something yourself, the more easily you'll remember it.

And finally, just use common sense everyone, when in doubt, ask your roommates if its okay, and I will try to do the same for you. Yes in college we should be able to do this stuff by now on our own, but if we can't we can help each other, but not all the time, and not a the last moment. I will never help you with an assignment the day it is due, and I don't expect you ever to either. But if one can give the other warning about something they need help with and they can work out a mutual time, by all means they can help them. It is NOT, however, either of our moral or logistic obligation to help the other, and if one either cannot find the time to help the other, or simply feels they need to figure it out on their own, then that is their prerogative and should be treated as such, and not with malice.

Now Ive been EXTREMELY fair and level in this post, much more so than I'm sure was anticipated of me, and I couldn't of been far crueler to all parties. And congrats for making it through this post alive.
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Why am I posting at 4am? [14 Sep 2005|04:04am]
Well leys see here, Ive been laying in bed since about 1:30am tring desperately to sleep, without any luck, so why bother? Im not tired at all right now and I don't know why. I hate this.
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My day at the cabin. [31 Jul 2005|12:46am]
For those that don't know "the cabin" as it is so dubbed is this cabin in the middle of nowhere in upstate new hampshire. ITs owned by the foxalls, who are my friend's ben and dan's mother's side of the family. Anyways, quira and I went up there late last night and just got back from it. IT was great, we both had a great time. Last night we played some picture telephone and listenned to some music. BUt today was much better.

We went hiking up a mountain which got extremely tired towards the top, and on the way down I snapped my knee backwards twice, which really really hurt. Andways afterwards we went to a friends of theirs house on a lake where we had a rather interesting conversation on whether or not mermaids have hymens or not. Basically we were discussing the origins of the word mermaid, and mermen. And why it was maid instead of woman. Same thing with Bride's maids. Anyways apparently Maid used to me synonymous with virgin, thus mermaid really means mervirgin. Which led to the discussion of mermaid hymens.

Anyways, then we went swimming in the lake. Afterwards went back to the cabin, where we had an awesome pasta dinner and started a campfire. Quira and I started the fire and as soon as we did Quira said somethign like "I just saw a lizard go twoards teh fire, I hope its okay. And I was like , where, and she said, you can't see it now it went under the bark. A few moments later I saw another and was like, I see one, and we assumed it was the same one, it was a newt. Then we saw another, and another and another. The fireplace was infested with them and they were stupid little newts. Anyways, Dan came out to check on the fire and he went on rescue detail for the newts where he would have to rescue them from killing themselves in the fire. This almost seemed futile, cuz tehre were always more newts in the fire place. Eventual he was satisfied though and we went in and ate our pasta dinner then went out sat around hte fire and roasted marshmellows, and dan played some guitar. And then Quira and I left. Goodtime.
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[25 Jun 2005|01:29pm]
Okay first off, its official, I wrote the email, even spell checked the email, then sent it to my boss. My last day is July 12th.

Secondly, I can't believe some people. Figure out what you want and then do it. I could care less what you do, but anything is better than doing nothing I suppose. And I say this becasue I know what its doing to people close to me, and its hurting me too because of this. All I want if for everyone to just get along. Can't we all just get along? Oh, and I can't wait til _____ meets ______. You can fill in the blanks, but it'll be fun.

I am such a trouble maker, so you all should ignore my ramblings. except _____,______,______,________________, and ___
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To quit or not to quit [22 Jun 2005|02:01pm]
Okay, Ive really had it with this job. I can very very very close today to quitting on the spot. But Ive decided that as soon as I get home I send him an email givign him my 2 week notice, officially. No I don't hjave another job lined up. I tlaked to bet buy today and they said they might have something for me in a week but nothign right now. And I called compusa and circuit city and neither of them were hiring right now. And I odn't know what I will do, but I am going to hunt, hunt like crazy for a job. Like crazy I say. Please comment with suggestions and stuff. I have 2 years experience as a technician, I just wnat to find something part time that I can do while Im at umass lowell next semester, cuz this job wouldn't work anyways.
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Internet [13 Jun 2005|09:14am]
Well Im at work right now, don't think Ill have much internet at home for a bit. Lost power last night. And since then we cna't get internet at home. Something is messed and its on our end, but I think the cable modem its self is shot so comecast will have to come in and replace it, who knows how long thats going to take.
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Updates in the life of Jeff [04 Jun 2005|11:58am]
Been a while since my last update, and Im at work and gots some time to kill so might as well update again. Anyways, Today Im working two different jobs. Yep thats right, I got a second job. Its ogoing to be sweet, specially if I do wwell and get to stay on and all, cuz it starts at $50 a night as the training wage and just goes up form there. And its working as a rody (sp?) Just doingthe load-ins and load-outs for this sound company. Gunna be sweet.
Anyways, tomorrow is Quiras 19th bday, HAPPY BDAY QUIRA!!!! I won't be able to see her today, tomorrow, and possibly even monday. And I have frisbee tuesday but if I haven't seen her at all by then, Im skipping frisbee. I already gave quira her bday presents. I made her a pure Amethyst and Pearl matching necklace and bracelet. And I also got he a 272 capacity CD rack. It was cool.
Also next friday Kevin and I are going on a mini roadtrip to New York City to see the premiere of the new Miazaki film. And then that saturday is our families annual BBQ, you'r all welcome to come.
Oh and at my regular jub the inshop guy quit last night suddenly, so I am not the in shop person again thus I get tons more hours at $13 an hour.
Also last week my ipod broke, but yesterday after going to the apple store and talking to HP they are sending me a new one cuz its under warranty. Hopefully it'll be in before friday, they said it should be in between tuesday and thursday at the latest. Lets hope they are right.

Thats enough good news, now for the bad news. Ive had a sore throat for days, but I think its getting better. Umass lowell and MCC are morons and assholes.

Lets see I got something in the mail on wednesday from Umass lowell telling my which courses Ill get transfer credit for, and they only listed SIX classes. That REALLY pisses me off, be definition joint admissions means that Im guarenteed 2 years of courses to carry over. Then on thursday Middlesex called say they are adding up my credits and keep coming up short for my degree, un believable. Infact tyhey couldn't even figure out who my advisor is. Im going to have to talk to them more thoroughly as well. Just pisses me off.

And in the mixed news I got my grades back last week and what a spread. I have a A, a B, a C+ and a D+. The D+ Im just glad I passed since there was one huge paper we had to do and I couldn't find the sheet where it told me when it was due and asked a student and he said, "Oh, thats due next friday." (this being on a friday) anyways I was already half done so it didn't bother me, finished it up by wednesday and brought it in for the teacher to look over before friday, and hes like ,oh that was due last friday. And refused to accept it even though it was finished. REALLY pissed me off andthat paper was worth 20% of out grade, so assuming Id of gotten a B o nthe paper like I did all other papers I would of finished with a b in the class, instead I got a D+. Really pisses me off.

Well thats all in an update in Jeff's life.
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[18 May 2005|01:06am]
NEW ABOUT ME SURVEY...BETTER!!
Name?Jeffrey Philip Albert
Hair?Brown
Eyes?Blue
Height?6'2
Hometown?Wakefield/Haverhill/CHelmsford
Birthplace?Boston
Sign?Aquarious
Left/Right handed?Ambidextrous, if you don't believe me, ask anyone that know me.
Heritage?Half Irish, half French Canadian
Favorite Season?Summer
Favorite Color?Indigo
Favorite Cd?One more car one more rider
Favorite Movie?So many to list, so many. Ill mention office space for now.
Favorite day of the week?Friday
Favorite number?42
Favorite animals?Cats
What pets do you have?Cats
Favorite car?Hondas
Favorite Sport?Soccer
What did you wear today?Khakis and a Grateful dead T-shirt
Favorite Food?Pasta
Do you smoke?no
Do you drink?sometimes
Do you do drugs?no
Do you like your life?sometimes
Favorite fast food?Wendys
What did you eat today?Cicken Finger sub and Chicken fingers for dinner.
How many piercings do you have?none
How many tatoos do you have?none
What is your weakness?Kryptonite
What is your greatest fear?Fear of people not liking me and not getting invited to things
Where would you most like to travel to?Japan
Favorite band/artist?Clapton
Do you like indoors or outdoors better?outdoors
What is your favorite pastime?magic
Favorite holiday?holloween
Most missed memory?
Biggest Regret?Its stupid and everone always laugs, so I won't get into it
Ever been in love?Yes
Someone you love?Quira
Something you hate?
Do you think you are attractive?no
Do you believe in yourself?sometimes
What do you wish you could change about yourself?lots
Favorite junk food?Ice Cream
Favorite t.v. show?Family Guy
Most important quality in a friend?integrety
Most important quality in a boy/girl friend?that special spark
Do you cry when you watch a sad movie?sometimes
Do you shower everyday?yes
Do you get along with your parents?sometimes
Do you go to school and/or have a job?yes
Are you online for more than 2 hours a day?yes
Sox or Yankees?neither
Coke or pepsi?coke
coffee or tea?both
Night or day?night
Raine or shine?both
beer or alcohol?alcohol
cat or dog?cat
make love or fuck?make love
chocolate or vanilla?vanilla
ideal job?long story
favorite ice cream?chookie dough
favorite video game?final fantasy series
Do you have siblings?yes
Do you sing?no
Do you dance?no
Final Questions
What is your screen name?SylvanSorrow
Do you like meeting new people?sometimes
What is your best quality?havne't a clue

CREATE YOUR OWN! - or - GET PAID TO TAKE SURVEYS!
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Poker game turned party [14 May 2005|12:08pm]
Well had a poker game last night, that almost turned out to be a full party, cept the only girl there was QUira, and I couldn't of been happier about that :) (LOVE YOU)


Anyways, my friend marty from austria was really really drunk. HE actually got to the poker game a little bit drunk (too drunk to drive) and then drank 3 bottles on guiness and 1.5 liters of red wine. It was a good night though. Had a good time. Going to a party tonight, should be a good time.
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Crappy week. [07 May 2005|12:51am]
Hmm, this has been a week of mixed blessings. Monday was fine, tuesday I tore my hamstring, wednesday I foudn out I might fail philosophy cusz I thought somethign was due friday when it happenned to be due on LAST friday. Worth 20% of our final grade. Thursday I gues was fine. And today, a mixed day. But I hope everythign will be okay.
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LJ collage [04 May 2005|11:05pm]
And for the sake of 56kers, lets do another cut

Friends Collage )
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The great bandwagon. [04 May 2005|10:38pm]

The movie list )
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My poor hamstring... [03 May 2005|08:25pm]
..Im going to miss my left ham for the next month or so, cuz its gone. I tore it beyond toring, barely could drive home. Layed on the field for 20 minutes after it happenned, cuz I couldn't move. Someone drove my car around to a closer access point. I heard a pop when it happenned, so did the guy next to me. The goodnews? I totally outran the fastest guy on the field and blocked it, you've never seen me run so fast. Not much of a good news, but noone thought Id get there anywheres near on time.
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Kevin, you need a better day for a bday, today has sucked (at least the end has) [02 May 2005|10:56pm]
So quira came over just after dinner today as usually. And I couldn't be happier to see her. We were going to watch Anchorman, compliments of Kevin, and we did watch it. About 40 minutes into the movie I begin to fall asleep cuz Im exhausted and my father knocks on the door and comes in (without saiting for a response from either quira or I mind you) And tells me to load the dishwasher. And me half asleep said something like "Later." not entirely sure what I said there, i was half asleep. Ayways so we continue to watch the movie, and suddenly, not sure how much longer, my father just walks in turns my TV off and then walks out. I was like, WTF that was incredibly rude. I imediately us ethe remote to turn the TV back on andwe continue watching the movie. The movie ends and quira and I lay together afterwards until abuot 10pm. ASt this point I REALLY have to goto the bathroom, but I don't want to since I don't want to have to confront my father at all. Quira suggests peeing in a cup, and I etnertain that idea, and quira like, no, just goto the bathroom. So I risk it, I goto the bathroom ad avoid him on the way there. But on the way out I see him and I just say. "That was the rudest thing...." and he totally flips out. IMmediately says "apologize" and Im like, for what? And hes like cuz I thought you were asleep and quira was too. And IM like, so you never said anyhtin, you never asked if we were awake. and I walk back to my room. And he says, get out here with quria, I want t otalk to both of you.

New paragraph. So hes like do you have any idea how much I do for you, how much I go out of the way for you people. Do any of your other friend's parents let thier girlfriends stay over? or let tehm stay over thier girlfriends? Im like, yeah actually, all of them. Which was funy cuz he jsut avo=ided that topic suddenly since I guess he still thinks its like the 50s or something. Anyways he the turns to quira and is like "How old are you." And quira did her usual "19 I mean 18" thing. And then he asks her if she drinks alchohol. And she answers honestly saying sometimes, and he says "Please don't drink while you are still underage." And Im like, what the hell dad, you're not her father you have no right to tell her that you aren't her father. ANd hes then goes back to the whole apology thing and is like apologize now of quira has to go home. And I just won't apologize to hime about this anymore I get more angry at him and hes liek. "Quira you have to go home now." And Im thinking now, great hes kicking quria out. I am pissed now. So we go back into my room and I slam my door and punch it 3 times. Which I really shouold not of done and didn't accomplish anything ad Im really sorry I did that quira. But anyways I apologize to quira about my father and about hitting my door many many times and give her a long hug and a quick kiss goodbye, and say, I hope you understand that Id rather stay in my room. And she leaves, at least I Thought hse did. I get back to my computer and 2 seconds later my father opens my door and I dart accross the room and close the door on him. Im like "What do you want." And hes like I want to talk. And Im like about what, tell me through the door. IT was then I got hte sense that quira was still there and he told her to hold on as well. So I open the door much sooner than I normally would cuz I don't want to force quira to be over there with him. ANd hes like "Do you realize that I wasn't trying to be rude abot turning the TV off." And Im like you could of asked if we were asleep you know. And he was like, everytime I do that you get mad at me. Im like, what the hell are you talking about, thought for a second, and was like those times are totally different, first its like past 1..." He interrupts me with another variation on the my house my rules ultimatum he so loves. I can't remember his exact words. Oh and he tells quira then that hes sorry for getting mad and she really is welcome there and says she can stay but I have to load the dishwasher first. Oh wait, I forgot the part where he said that "Unless you clean the kitchen as you go you can't have people over" WHe it really felt directed at both me and Quira, like its her responsibility to cclean the kitchen. ANyways Im like no she has a 11pm curfew tonight anyways and has to go. And IM like quira you can leav enow, since I Really don't want her seeing anymore of this. And here is the line that REALLY pissed me off.

He began saying that if he had a heart attack that it would be intirely my fault and that he gets chest pains and he blames them on me. Hes now blaming me for all of his stress. There is more, but I can't ermember any of it past that and Im sure Im forgetting things too.
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Fun with similes and metephors. [21 Apr 2005|11:19pm]
Okay, I enjoy coming up with the most random similes and metaphors possible for certain things, example:
As productive as trying to push a beached whale with a go-kart.
or
As productive as two 90-year-olds fucking.

So lets have fun with really random ones, Ill tart a sentence with "As ... as" and see what random stuff you people can come up with

As slow as...

As weak as...

As stupid as...

As strong as...

As ugly as...

As thin as...

As fat as...

As productive as...

As angry as...

As dead as...




Well there are a few, Ill fill it in when IVe got more time, if you think of more, let me know, I have a paper to write now.
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Curfues suck [20 Apr 2005|01:20am]
Yes they do.
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I am amazing. [14 Apr 2005|08:53am]
I use my computer as my alarm clock. I went to bed around 1am last night. I woke up on my own at 7am, and panicked, turned my moniter on to see what time it was. And my computer had crashed over night and I had to restart. Saving me from drastically oversleeping. THen I Just reset the alarm and went back to sleep, and now off to classes I go.
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To people... [06 Apr 2005|04:26pm]
Time for posts about the "children" out there. Yeah, talking to you Middlesex people.
Enough with the drama. enough is enough....Please....enough.
And don't hang out with people that don't offer any "positive reinforcement". James, you know what I mean.
And don't make posts that specifically say they "aren't for pity" public, cuz then they are for pity. Seriously people (this doesn't JUST apply to jess's post people.)
People change, accept that. *COUGH*wuborn*COUGH*
Don't be hypocritical, and mind your own business when it should be minded. Let James and Laura be.
Don't bend truths in your favor, really irritating and you always get caught. K, this just goes for everyone, includign me.
Don't injure yourself intentionally, nothing good comes from it. I won't say who IM taling about here, cuz I promised.
Don't care about the "kids" more than your significant others. Kids being friends of course.
Each new relationship is a NEW relationship, treat it as such. This just goes for everyone, including me.
Being paranoid upsets others more than it helps you (talking about being paranoid in a relationship). This goes for me and laura and kevin and everyone else.
You cant quantitate love, don't try. Yeah, shutup jeff.
People deserve a second chance, just don't get paranoid about it and stay honest with each other. Youve been doing well Kevin and tenile since febuary, Im glad.
Drink if you'd like, don't ever use it as an excuse, or dont drink. This goes for everyone including me.
Lastly, be honorable to your friends. Just good advice.


OH and make a public posts saying everything, no more secrets. No more cryptic bullshit in your posts. Everyone figures it out anyways!
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Taken from jared [16 Mar 2005|11:21am]

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The conclusion to my philosophy paper. [09 Mar 2005|11:52pm]
Thus, in supposition on the suppression of abstract and substantive thought; philosophy can be studied, or not studied; but philosophers themselves should not be studied as philosophy but as history; the conception of generalizing any form of philosophy, including this essay itself, is a contradiction of the very nature of the study of philosophy; contemplation of philosophy itself is enough, philosophers themselves should not exist in a culturally conceptual civilization, they are an incongruity of their very science; and I use the term science lightly.
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